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Post by ylevental on Nov 2, 2015 6:01:57 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/children-with-autism-have-distinct-facial-features-study/
"The study found children with autism had wider eyes, and a "broader upper face," compared with typically developing children. According to the study, children with autism also had a shorter middle region of the face - including the nose and cheeks - as well as a wider mouth and philtrum, the divot above the lip and below the nose.
The study also found that children with more severe autism traits such as behavioral problems, language difficulties, and repetitive behaviors had distinct facial differences from other children with milder autism."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 13:59:21 GMT
How much were these supposed "differences" influenced by racial ancestry? The whole study smacks of eugenics.
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Post by ylevental on Nov 3, 2015 15:36:34 GMT
How much were these supposed "differences" influenced by racial ancestry? The whole study smacks of eugenics. I don't know, they didn't mention anything about race. Besides, it doesn't matter how you look anyway, one way or the other.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 12:35:42 GMT
If you consider that it was already known that autistic kids have slightly larger brains and head circumference, then it should be no surprise that the face may differ too. Researchers will study anything they can get funding for.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 14:00:48 GMT
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Post by kraftiekortie on Nov 6, 2015 6:28:37 GMT
I think the variance in facial symptoms could have causes other than autism itself...perhaps genetic in origin.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 11:11:58 GMT
I think the variance in facial symptoms could have causes other than autism itself...perhaps genetic in origin. I agree I think that facial features are far more likely to be a product of racial genetics than being linked to autism. I haven't spotted any archetypal Autistic facial characteristics among the numerous photos that appear online of Autistic people.
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Post by ylevental on Nov 6, 2015 12:53:24 GMT
I think the variance in facial symptoms could have causes other than autism itself...perhaps genetic in origin. I agree I think that facial features are far more likely to be a product of racial genetics than being linked to autism. I haven't spotted any archetypal Autistic facial characteristics among the numerous photos that appear online of Autistic people. I would agree that they vary more between races, but this isn't saying that most autistics have different facial features, it says that there is a specific subgroup of autistics with significantly altered facial features (relative to what's expected for their racial ideal).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 14:17:05 GMT
It would be interesting to see some comparative photos that might help to substantiate the claims of the researchers.
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Post by kraftiekortie on Nov 6, 2015 14:26:59 GMT
I wasn't speaking about race, per se.
I was speaking about certain genetic disorders which might cause autism, but which are not autism
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 14:33:21 GMT
I wasn't speaking about race, per se. I was speaking about certain genetic disorders which might cause autism, but which are not autism Do you mean that there might be some condition, similar to autism, but which isn't autism that might have certain physical traits in the way that people with Downs Syndrome or Williams Syndrome both have different sets of instantly recognizable facial features?
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Post by ylevental on Nov 6, 2015 15:35:02 GMT
I wasn't speaking about race, per se. I was speaking about certain genetic disorders which might cause autism, but which are not autism Do you mean that there might be some condition, similar to autism, but which isn't autism that might have certain physical traits in the way that people with Downs Syndrome or Williams Syndrome both have different sets of instantly recognizable facial features? I think that's what I am getting at.
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Post by kraftiekortie on Nov 6, 2015 15:46:33 GMT
If you look at the entire photo album of autistic people on WP, you'll notice that most people pictured do not differ radically from the "normal."
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Post by ylevental on Nov 6, 2015 15:49:10 GMT
If you look at the entire photo album of autistic people on WP, you'll notice that most people pictured do not differ radically from the "normal." Is there something like that? I will have to find it. Of course, the study found out that the more severe autistics had more pronounced facial features.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 15:59:04 GMT
There are clear physical similarities between people born with Downs Syndrome... Downs Syndrome imagesSimilarly people born with Williams Syndrome display recognized physical features... Williams Syndrome imagesHowever if you search for images of people with Autism then the resulting pictures are as diverse as are images of "normal" people. There doesn't seem to be any discernible set of physical features that identify people as autistic, or members of some other group with symptoms similar to autism.
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