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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 16:57:39 GMT
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Post by ylevental on Nov 3, 2015 19:19:31 GMT
Autistic adults that are undiagnosed are often considered to dominate fields like technology, yet all the diagnosed adult autistics have a low employment rate of 5-20%. This does not make sense whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 23:26:05 GMT
I always thought that Autism Speaks stance was a total contradiction of it's own aims. By their logic...
All autistics are children.There are no autistic adults,
Therefore all autistic children must somehow undergo a self activated internal "cure" immediately they reach adulthood.
Therefore there is absolutely no need for Autism Speaks to tout for donations or to fund autism research in "cures" because by their own logic that cure will happen spontaneously and entirely free of charge to each autistic child the moment that they become an adult.
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Post by iliketrees on Nov 4, 2015 8:43:40 GMT
I always thought that Autism Speaks stance was a total contradiction of it's own aims. By their logic... All autistics are children.There are no autistic adults, Therefore all autistic children must somehow undergo a self activated internal "cure" immediately they reach adulthood. Therefore there is absolutely no need for Autism Speaks to tout for donations or to fund autism research in "cures" because by their own logic that cure will happen spontaneously and entirely free of charge to each autistic child the moment that they become an adult. That is a very good point actually. If only it was that simple.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 22:21:45 GMT
I actually think that the linked article in the OP makes a lot of valid points. Simply type "Autism" into Google image search and the number of images that feature kids far outnumbers those that feature adults. A quick search on eBay or Amazon will verify that a great many of the items listed for sale, whether DVDs, books or things are aimed specifically at either kids or the parents of kids. Maybe Autism Speaks has it right after all and autistic adults are simply a figment of the imagination.
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Post by itt2 on Nov 7, 2015 16:52:03 GMT
Guys, I will admit I didn't make it all the way through the article, so maybe this was addressed, but there is one important thing that always strikes me when reading something like this. They always talk about how PARENTS portray autistics as children.
Well.....duh.
The parents of *adults* on the spectrum did not have the internet to go to to create websites, join forums, blog, instagram, facebook, etc. Most of the parents doing that today have CHILDREN, so of course they are portraying autistics as children, because that's what they have. It's not because the parents doing these things today are in denial that there are adult autistics. It is that *they are not there yet.* While I may recognize that it is important to understand/address the issues associated with autism in adults, in my day to day life, issues associated with autism in children predominates, because that is where my concerns are today. Every day. In a very concrete and time consuming way sometimes. Bullying, IEPs, educational equity, keeping kids with impulse control/behavioral issues safe, etc...these are the things that concern parents of children, and the internet is an awesome way to gather information. It is also my impression that parents of newly diagnosed kids are much more "active" than even parents who have been at this for awhile. I know I was. So you are going to see a lot more targeted even at little kids, because that is when it is often first diagnosed, so parents of young children are the consumers, so things are targeted toward them. Parents of people on the spectrum my age are not as active on the internet as parents of toddlers/young children on the spectrum. Of course there is less originated by/targeted toward them.
In time this will shift. When I was new to this, my whole world sometimes felt like it revolved around early intervention and the various therapies that it entailed. I rarely give things like ABA, sensory integration therapy, PT, etc a thought now. I am past that. Now I am focused on things like executive dysfunction and real-life social skills. With my son, I am starting to think about things like sex, alcohol, driving, etc. In a few years, my concerns will be focused on independent living, college, etc. Then I will be focused on entering the workplace, etc.
The thing is, it won't just be me that is moving to more "adult-like" areas of focus...all of my cohorts, who have had kids diagnosed in the early 2000's, will be joining me. It will be much more mainstream because there will be a "market" for it. The faces on the internet will change, because the faces of our kids-becoming-adults will change.
Or maybe I am just crazy and there is some kind of conspiracy.
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Post by io on Nov 8, 2015 0:26:05 GMT
I will never understand the need to feel marginalized, because one didn't get something someone else did. I guess would be my response to it.
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Post by sillyaspielady on Nov 11, 2015 23:03:57 GMT
I'm writing a research paper on this in college. I've also noticed that even with research on autism, the primary focus is on children instead of adults, which seem to be making it difficult for adults to get help. I can't even seem to get help with social skills in my area! I was hoping the groups in my area would be helpful, but their either too far away or expect me to drive (I haven't learned yet). It's disappointing to see such a lack of focus on adults with autism. It's important to help children, but you shouldn't neglect adults.
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Post by OrionsBelt on Nov 26, 2015 20:17:48 GMT
I will never understand the need to feel marginalized, because one didn't get something someone else did. I guess would be my response to it. Hi io, I guess it's not a need to feel marginalized. You're 58, per your bio. I'm 63. Perhaps where you grew up, and your natural skill-set helped you fit in? Or perhaps your gender? I was totally marginalized. And, no, I'm not whining (or whinging, if you're a Brit reader). It's not that I didn't get something that someone else did, rather it's that all I got was a beating from parents, relatives, teachers or anyone else who didn't care for my personality. Yeah. That left me a little bitter, and still struggling. And it does piss me off that there's no help in the US of A for we who are older on the spectrum. I'm betting our suicide rates are high, and many of us have never married, have no family, and have been homeless (more than once). Hope this response is to what you were referring.
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