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Post by max on Mar 1, 2016 17:38:10 GMT
Dox used to be, and continues to be kinda reasonable. As long as you don't mention the one issue of guns. But Raptor, and the Nurse, are both totally off the hook. Yeah, kind of reasonable. Unless you dare to mention gun control to him, then the Adam Lanza wanabe will get his moderator friends to ban you. Such a reasonable person.
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Post by OOM on Mar 1, 2016 20:06:16 GMT
Dox used to be, and continues to be kinda reasonable. As long as you don't mention the one issue of guns. But Raptor, and the Nurse, are both totally off the hook. Yeah, kind of reasonable. Unless you dare to mention gun control to him, then the Adam Lanza wanabe will get his moderator friends to ban you. Such a reasonable person. Again, I think he does that because a lot of people there run to the mods about piddly ridiculous shit. I think he's trying to prove a point. I don't think any of them are his friends. And you can also go to the mods whenever you want to as well you know. It's just am internet forum and not something to get all upset over. I used to know a guy on there who got banned and couldn't deal with it when he did. We were friends and talked on FB and the phone and all that. He just went over the top about it and wouldn't let it go when he got banned from an internet forum and I honestly just got tired of hearing about the banning constantly so I stopped talking to him. When you get really upset about a forum, it makes you look bad. So, if you do get all upset about it when you aren't there posting on it, then don't talk about it to friends all the time because it looks bad.
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Post by Misery on Mar 3, 2016 4:42:40 GMT
I'll just add my own two cents and say that while I dont know the particular mods being mentioned here... having only directly interacted with them very few times... I do understand the issue of... "overbearing" sorts, when they're given moderator ability and such.
This is why, on occaision, I'll offer to do some moderation myself, because I tend to be passive and will only act if I really see the need, which is rare. As a rule, my self-appointed role is "stomper of stupid bot things", and that's most of what I do on those forums I've moderated. Hate those stupid things, really. Plague of internet forums that they are. WP could do with a few more moderators that actually DO more about that... but I digress.
This isnt the only forum I moderate right now, I'm also moderating a forum for an indie developer that I've been contracted to a couple of times; a relatively active forum that previously had exactly one moderator, and then the admins who are actually the main developers and thus dont have all that much time to roam the boards. Someone's gotta stomp those stupid bots, and very occaisionally encourage people to calm down (which usually takes the form of me waving cat photos around, because what other response would I give?) and in the end, it works out well. A forum with NO mods is a problem, usually. Been there, watched that train wreck... more than a couple of times.
But yeah, it does bug me when you get mods that either abuse their power, or just listen to every damn complaint that every single person comes to them with. It's like, okay, just because Steve there came to you and complained about Bob, doesnt instantly mean "go moderate the hell out of Bob". Sometimes you gotta say: "Okay, and your point is...?" and explain the lack of actual rule breaking. Or sometimes just the need for people to grow a thicker skin... or the difference between debate and true arguement. Alot of the WP mods seem to be... a bit wishy-washy about this sort of stuff. Almost like they give in too easily? That's been my impressions of them.
Also, I'll just second this bit. Honestly, people get WAY too sensitive these days. As with OOM, I've been bullied in the past, by ACTUAL bullies, and honestly, I've not seen anyone on WP that matches that description. Oh, you get people that might be a bit of a jerk every now and then (or even a total jerk), but that's very different from actually being a bully. Being whiny (and thus running to mods all the time, or doing other things) is ALSO different. There are some on the forums that do that a bit. Though no specifics I can think of personally.
I've forgotten what else I was going to say.
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Post by sillyaspielady on Mar 4, 2016 22:45:12 GMT
I had reported a WP member for typing really misogynistic stuff and one of the mods told me they weren't breaking the rules when one of the reasons to report listed is offensive content. I don't understand the mods there at all.
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Post by Misery on Mar 5, 2016 6:37:37 GMT
I had reported a WP member for typing really misogynistic stuff and one of the mods told me they weren't breaking the rules when one of the reasons to report listed is offensive content. I don't understand the mods there at all. Well, nobody said that all of them were particularly bright... I'll be honest, as overbearing as they tend to be, even I think that they still manage to slack a bit. Which doesnt entirely make sense, but still...
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Post by acapella on Mar 15, 2016 21:49:02 GMT
The moderators don't know the difference between misandrous and misogynous. They cherry pick who to moderatate based on their favourite users. Some users whine to the mods and lick their backsides and keep reporting members to them to bully the members. There's one user in particular who does that. A few people have worked him out and really, really don't like him. We all think he's a insane control freak and asshole and desperately wants to be a moderator. Think of all the powah he could have as a mod on WP. Lol what a sad asshole.
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Post by ann2016 on Mar 16, 2016 18:26:01 GMT
Well I'll join in the bash WP fun. I am tired of the favouritism in the way the rules are applied. It's turned into a boy's club. The favourites like Fnord get away with whatever they want. Love & Dating is a women hating party and no one does anything about it. I'm glad to see your site up and running OOM.
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Post by spikemarlin on Mar 16, 2016 22:50:47 GMT
Well I'll join in the bash WP fun. I am tired of the favouritism in the way the rules are applied. It's turned into a boy's club. The favourites like Fnord get away with whatever they want. Love & Dating is a women hating party and no one does anything about it. I'm glad to see your site up and running OOM. Glad you mentioned Fnord. Years ago he was actually much worse than he is now (openly mean spirited) , and the moderators seemed to kiss his ass like he was god. And he would play this clever game of violating the spirit of the laws of WP, with out violating the letter of the law. And he would provoke others to get angry and -to violate the letter of the law. Get you upset and provoke you to use an epithet on him. So then Fnord would run and hide behind his mommy moderators and get you punished. I wasnt even targeted by him, and I fell for that gambit once myself. He has actually improved quite a bit. Conceals his vitriol. And is actually relatively nice these days. But the funny thing is these days he often mopes about "woe is me. All it takes is one person complaining about me and I will get banned again." So apparently the mods dont totally shield him, and he does get a lot of push back.
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Post by Misery on Mar 20, 2016 21:01:01 GMT
On the note of Fnord, my experiences with him have been a bit different.
He tends to pester people when they're talking about certain things... usually their beliefs, if they are religious or believe in the supernatural or something, or just if someone is saying something that he considers "illogical", he'll step in and make some extremely condescending statement about how utterly wrong they are, because of COURSE the real answer is this other thing (even if it's something he's literally just as unable to completely prove as they are). This always bugs me when I see it, so I tend to step in and inject my own logic to counter this.
I refuse to snap though when dealing with him, because I do get the feeling that he's pretty much just looking for a confrontation so he has someone to throw his self-assumed "power" at. Eventually, EVERY time, he just abruptly leaves the topic and stops responding to me.
I did even have him once just directly send me a message via PM, about some post I'd made in General where I was asking about... something. The message was even more disagreeable than usual, but my response was basically just something like "And you're sending this to me via PM.... why, exactly? I dont even know you." I'm not sure what he expected to get out of that one.
But yeah, he kinda bugs me too, and it's rare that an individual person on a forum manages that one.
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Post by aspieotaku on Apr 25, 2016 12:41:40 GMT
I like Dox. Wheny youngest was given an antique little handgun he basically made sure that my kid wouldn't try to put it together and shoot it, but just use it as a belt buckle. I'm liberal about most issues but the Conservatives don't bother me. I'm conservative on some issues, like gun rights. I get along with fnord too. He's never been mean toe but we have strongly disagreed. I didn't like the kindergarten moderating there. The whole you can't say anything that could be interpreted in any way as hurting someone's feelings. Not talking about blatant stuff, but regular stuff. I've been called all kinds of ists and isms for dumbass reasons. Got tires of it. yeah i agree with you on the moderation part i was banned because they are overly sensetive cry babies.
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