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Post by kraichgauer on Feb 15, 2016 10:24:55 GMT
I am seriously getting sick and tired of being baited by the likes of libertarian, right wing nuts like Raptor, Nurseangela, and Dox. It just isn't the same site it had been even last year. I even question if Raptor and Dox are even real Aspies, or if they're just a couple overbearing jackasses with personality disorders. Anyone else having that sort of experience over at WP?
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Post by malaprop on Feb 16, 2016 4:13:00 GMT
I just think that some folks there have very strong personalities, and tend to dominate a conversation. There are also those who willfully bait other people, knowing that they say very hurtful / cruel things, but who believe that you should grow a thick skin, suck it up and deal with it.
Of course, none of this would happen if we had more approachable moderators. I think - except for one - the rest of them are on a power trip where there's really no control / oversight over their actions, as Alex seems to be quite hands-off, and if you run into a problem with a moderator, then you're outta luck.
I like this alternative so much more. So far, no one here seems to be on a power trip. And long may that last.
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Post by dianthus on Feb 17, 2016 1:51:03 GMT
It has changed a lot over there. It seems a lot less active than it used to be overall. So to me those certain people who tend to dominate conversations really stand out more than they used to.
I am getting really tired of it because the way it is moderated doesn't make sense to me. The rules aren't all that clear, or rather the way the rules are interpreted by mods seems to be all over the place. I think if a forum is going to be heavily moderated, it has to be done consistently, with clear examples of the rules so everyone understand what is or is not okay. Too much is left open to personal interpretation, and it seems like there are a lot of different interpretations going on.
Alex is the only person who could really set things straight and set the standard for how he wants the forum to be. I wish he would get more involved there, but I can understand he probably has better things to do.
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Post by OOM on Feb 18, 2016 0:49:21 GMT
I like Dox. Wheny youngest was given an antique little handgun he basically made sure that my kid wouldn't try to put it together and shoot it, but just use it as a belt buckle.
I'm liberal about most issues but the Conservatives don't bother me. I'm conservative on some issues, like gun rights. I get along with fnord too. He's never been mean toe but we have strongly disagreed.
I didn't like the kindergarten moderating there. The whole you can't say anything that could be interpreted in any way as hurting someone's feelings. Not talking about blatant stuff, but regular stuff. I've been called all kinds of ists and isms for dumbass reasons. Got tires of it.
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Post by wolfclaw99 on Feb 18, 2016 7:55:52 GMT
I'm one of those Conservative/Libertarian guys on WP, although I don't personally try to go out of my way to bait other people. That's just ridiculous. I also am cool with whomever isn't ignorant or obnoxious. But C'mon Kraichgauer, you gotta understand that not everybody will agree with you on every single thing. I've come to except that fact, which is why I almost never post in the PPR. I mean sure, sometimes I think WP is just crawling with Liberals, but that's ok. I try not to let anybody's political affiliation cloud how I view them (unless they are complete dill weeds), because I know that there is more to them than just political views.
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Post by OOM on Feb 18, 2016 22:47:50 GMT
Kraichgauer is one of the few liberal dems who I can disagree and debate/argue with who doesn't talk to me like I'm dog crap when I disagree.
While I am a liberal Democrat,I don't agree with everything. I'm pro gun rights, pro death penalty, and very much against the whole political correct we-have-to-analyze-every-word-so-nobody-accidentally-offends-with-a-made-up-microaggression-or-be-labeled-ist-ism-phobic-etc-bullshit. My husband is a conservative Republican and we get along just fine. He dislikes guns very much but he's pro gun rights. He made me sell my beautiful .357 mag right after we got married cause keeping it around made him too nervous. He was robbed at gunpoint when he was a teenager. Although that would make most normal folks want a gun of their own, at all times, he never wanted to see another gun again.
I don't get why folks can't argue politics online and then just let it go after. I like folks better who can do that. Some of my best friends are folks I disagree with on almost all issues, and we sit around with a couple glasses nice sipping whiskey and argue and argue like we are important folks who have say so in how the world is run then once we get tired of that we just change the subject to something else or if it gets just too heated I go in the kitchen and bring them a plate of something good that I've made. Food can solve political problems too.
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Post by kraichgauer on Feb 19, 2016 7:37:51 GMT
I'm one of those Conservative/Libertarian guys on WP, although I don't personally try to go out of my way to bait other people. That's just ridiculous. I also am cool with whomever isn't ignorant or obnoxious. But C'mon Kraichgauer, you gotta understand that not everybody will agree with you on every single thing. I've come to except that fact, which is why I almost never post in the PPR. I mean sure, sometimes I think WP is just crawling with Liberals, but that's ok. I try not to let anybody's political affiliation cloud how I view them (unless they are complete dill weeds), because I know that there is more to them than just political views. But I'd have absolutely no problem with arguing politics; it's just when people get personal, and start baiting me, that I have a problem with it.
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Post by kraichgauer on Feb 19, 2016 7:39:07 GMT
Kraichgauer is one of the few liberal dems who I can disagree and debate/argue with who doesn't talk to me like I'm dog crap when I disagree. While I am a liberal Democrat,I don't agree with everything. I'm pro gun rights, pro death penalty, and very much against the whole political correct we-have-to-analyze-every-word-so-nobody-accidentally-offends-with-a-made-up-microaggression-or-be-labeled-ist-ism-phobic-etc-bullshit. My husband is a conservative Republican and we get along just fine. He dislikes guns very much but he's pro gun rights. He made me sell my beautiful .357 mag right after we got married cause keeping it around made him too nervous. He was robbed at gunpoint when he was a teenager. Although that would make most normal folks want a gun of their own, at all times, he never wanted to see another gun again. I don't get why folks can't argue politics online and then just let it go after. I like folks better who can do that. Some of my best friends are folks I disagree with on almost all issues, and we sit around with a couple glasses nice sipping whiskey and argue and argue like we are important folks who have say so in how the world is run then once we get tired of that we just change the subject to something else or if it gets just too heated I go in the kitchen and bring them a plate of something good that I've made. Food can solve political problems too. Thank you. I try.
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Post by meistersinger on Feb 20, 2016 5:04:36 GMT
Thank you. I try. What really p!ssed me off at WP is seeing other people being stomped into the ground by the likes of Raptor, nurse angels (aka Grumpy Cat on Aspies Central before she was booted off), and dox47. Like I said in my parting missive at nurseangela before I stopped posting for good at that hellhole, there's a difference between having a heated debate and bearbaiting. It's the difference between Rush Limbaugh (whom I can't stand) and the late Ron Smith who was the afternoon drive host on Baltimore's WBAL-AM, who I begrudgingly tolerated, if only because at least he did his research, and would at least was somewhat gracious on the air. (as an aside, after his death, he was replaced by former WMAR-TV news anchor Mary Beth Marsden, who has a child on the spectrum, and taking care of that child was one of the reasons she left ABC 2). Now, I'm no bleeding heart liberal, nor am I a raging Rottweiler pit bull Doberman pinscher mix. I do have a problem when a blowhard like nurseangela or Raptor rips a new asshole with anyone who disagrees with her/him/it. I had enough of that garbage growing up, especially from my parents. That kind of behavior I can not and will not condone, especially when they stick their brown noses in other people's business (and for those of you that don't get PA Dutch idiomatic speech, a brown noser or a brown nose is someone who tries to get something from someone by kissing someone else's ass, especially after said victim has just taken a sh!t.). Whatever happened to agreeing to disagree, and leave it at that? Whatever happened to the art of compromise? Has civility really gone by the extreme wayside since I started BBS'ing in 1988?
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Post by kraichgauer on Feb 20, 2016 10:22:15 GMT
What really p!ssed me off at WP is seeing other people being stomped into the ground by the likes of Raptor, nurse angels (aka Grumpy Cat on Aspies Central before she was booted off), and dox47. Like I said in my parting missive at nurseangela before I stopped posting for good at that hellhole, there's a difference between having a heated debate and bearbaiting. It's the difference between Rush Limbaugh (whom I can't stand) and the late Ron Smith who was the afternoon drive host on Baltimore's WBAL-AM, who I begrudgingly tolerated, if only because at least he did his research, and would at least was somewhat gracious on the air. (as an aside, after his death, he was replaced by former WMAR-TV news anchor Mary Beth Marsden, who has a child on the spectrum, and taking care of that child was one of the reasons she left ABC 2). Now, I'm no bleeding heart liberal, nor am I a raging Rottweiler pit bull Doberman pinscher mix. I do have a problem when a blowhard like nurseangela or Raptor rips a new asshole with anyone who disagrees with her/him/it. I had enough of that garbage growing up, especially from my parents. That kind of behavior I can not and will not condone, especially when they stick their brown noses in other people's business (and for those of you that don't get PA Dutch idiomatic speech, a brown noser or a brown nose is someone who tries to get something from someone by kissing someone else's ass, especially after said victim has just taken a sh!t.). Whatever happened to agreeing to disagree, and leave it at that? Whatever happened to the art of compromise? Has civility really gone by the extreme wayside since I started BBS'ing in 1988? I couldn't agree with you more, my friend. I admit that when I get baited, I end up fighting back dirtier than I'm proud of. But at least I think I can say I'm not one of those "master baiters."
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Post by max on Feb 22, 2016 10:14:04 GMT
I am seriously getting sick and tired of being baited by the likes of libertarian, right wing nuts like Raptor, Nurseangela, and Dox. It just isn't the same site it had been even last year. I even question if Raptor and Dox are even real Aspies, or if they're just a couple overbearing jackasses with personality disorders. Anyone else having that sort of experience over at WP? Yeah, Raptor and Dox are psychopaths. About three years ago I got into a debate with them on gun control. Dox then reported me in the moderator forum for “attacking an entire group of people”. Soon, I was banned from WP. The moderator sent me an email telling me that gun ownership is a Constitutional right, and that I was being permanently banned for attacking gun owners. I was like WTF does Constitutional rights have to with WP? So I got banned from WP for my gun control views. Thats the way those guys work. I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if someday I read that one of those guys was involved in a mass-shooting. They are sick puppies.
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Post by OOM on Feb 22, 2016 23:37:24 GMT
No they aren't. I don't know Raptor well bit I know Dox from the forum and like him. I imagine his reporting you wasn't so much about you or your views as it was about the way some folks report others for their wording or views as "attacking a group of people" and usually that's because some guy who can't get a date says something like "all women want are jerks" and some girl complain that he's "attacking all women" or " contributing to rape culture" or something. He probably did that and forced their hand because by the standards that say the other comment is attacking a group, then you would have been too. He was probably trying to get the mods to see how silly it is to label that kind of thing as attacking a group.
I'm pro gun rights but everybody is entitled to their opinion. Dox actually saved my younger sons life when he was given an old pistol by a neighbor. It had been taken apart and my son was going to put it back together and fix it and target shoot with it. It looked fine for that. I checked with dox who is a gunsmith and he told me that it would explode the first time it was shot after I gave him info about the gun and a description of it etc. A psychopath wouldn't have cared.
One of my problems with WP was the whole thing about not being able to say much of anything without the mods getting on you because it offended somebody. I totally feel you on that part of it though.
But don't write dox off too quickly. He's got strong opinions but he's not unreasonable. I really do imagine that's why he reported you and such. He's not the type to get his feelings hurt very easily.
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Post by max on Feb 23, 2016 2:07:23 GMT
No they aren't. I don't know Raptor well bit I know Dox from the forum and like him. I imagine his reporting you wasn't so much about you or your views as it was about the way some folks report others for their wording or views as "attacking a group of people" and usually that's because some guy who can't get a date says something like "all women want are jerks" and some girl complain that he's "attacking all women" or " contributing to rape culture" or something. He probably did that and forced their hand because by the standards that say the other comment is attacking a group, then you would have been too. He was probably trying to get the mods to see how silly it is to label that kind of thing as attacking a group. I'm pro gun rights but everybody is entitled to their opinion. Dox actually saved my younger sons life when he was given an old pistol by a neighbor. It had been taken apart and my son was going to put it back together and fix it and target shoot with it. It looked fine for that. I checked with dox who is a gunsmith and he told me that it would explode the first time it was shot after I gave him info about the gun and a description of it etc. A psychopath wouldn't have cared. One of my problems with WP was the whole thing about not being able to say much of anything without the mods getting on you because it offended somebody. I totally feel you on that part of it though. But don't write dox off too quickly. He's got strong opinions but he's not unreasonable. I really do imagine that's why he reported you and such. He's not the type to get his feelings hurt very easily. Dox is a gutless, pathetic, coward, who runs to his moderator friends, for them to ban anyone who dares to disagree with him. He is a bully thug who can dish it out, but he can’t take it. Defend the WP bullies if you like, but they reporting everything you say to the goon moderators, is the reason you can’t say anything on WP.
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Post by OOM on Feb 24, 2016 7:56:31 GMT
No they aren't. I don't know Raptor well bit I know Dox from the forum and like him. I imagine his reporting you wasn't so much about you or your views as it was about the way some folks report others for their wording or views as "attacking a group of people" and usually that's because some guy who can't get a date says something like "all women want are jerks" and some girl complain that he's "attacking all women" or " contributing to rape culture" or something. He probably did that and forced their hand because by the standards that say the other comment is attacking a group, then you would have been too. He was probably trying to get the mods to see how silly it is to label that kind of thing as attacking a group. I'm pro gun rights but everybody is entitled to their opinion. Dox actually saved my younger sons life when he was given an old pistol by a neighbor. It had been taken apart and my son was going to put it back together and fix it and target shoot with it. It looked fine for that. I checked with dox who is a gunsmith and he told me that it would explode the first time it was shot after I gave him info about the gun and a description of it etc. A psychopath wouldn't have cared. One of my problems with WP was the whole thing about not being able to say much of anything without the mods getting on you because it offended somebody. I totally feel you on that part of it though. But don't write dox off too quickly. He's got strong opinions but he's not unreasonable. I really do imagine that's why he reported you and such. He's not the type to get his feelings hurt very easily. Dox is a gutless, pathetic, coward, who runs to his moderator friends, for them to ban anyone who dares to disagree with him. He is a bully thug who can dish it out, but he can’t take it. Defend the WP bullies if you like, but they reporting everything you say to the goon moderators, is the reason you can’t say anything on WP. I'm sure that's the impression you got from him because of that incident but that really isn't the way he is. I'm not saying you should like him anyway, I'm just saying you should believe someone who has known him for a while. From my experience it's the "oh you can't hurt my little special snowflake feelings or disagree with me, everything you type should come with trigger warnings because I'm an entitled little shit" who run to the mods and whine about everything. Those are the ones who want everything banned. If Dox was a bully and acted like you say he does he would have jumped at the chance to be a mod here, which I offered him at the beginning because I think he's level headed and wouldn't have a problem following the "pretty much no-rules rules" that I've set up here. He wasn't interested, although I do believe he's a member here, but I could be wrong about that. I have no problems with him, and we have disagreed many times. Bullies love a chance to bully others and being a mod is a bully opportunity on a silver platter for some people. Dox wasn't interested at all. Also, labeling anything rude or unpleasant as "bullying" is kind of over the top. Nowdays people are calling too many things bullying. I've been actually bullied and I know what it is. Typing harsh shit to you or reporting you to the mods isn't bullying. Not at all. And of course you might decide to label what I said to you just now as bullying, but this isn't either.
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Post by spikemarlin on Feb 29, 2016 23:35:22 GMT
Dox used to be, and continues to be kinda reasonable. As long as you don't mention the one issue of guns. But Raptor, and the Nurse, are both totally off the hook.
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